Open: Hey, good morning! Welcome to STAG. I’m Jack. Thanks for tuning in today. There are a couple reasons for today’s program. Recently, I’ve talked to folks who are concerned about some things that they saw in the Bible, but couldn’t reconcile with what they thought it meant and what they saw in the world. If you’re a Christian, today’s two subjects will be of importance. I think this information will ease your mind, or at least reinforce what you already know, as a reminder. But first…

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The two reasons for this show? First to clear up the confusion a lot of people have over when we’re “supposed” to go to church. Is it Sunday, or Saturday, or another day, or NO day? Also I want to give you a reminder of how to get to God, through studying the Bible, specifically the Lost Tribes. Both these areas are fraught with questions. Almost all Bible teachers will tell their students that you can’t “pick and choose” when it comes to the Bible. But then they’ll offer some doctrine without comparing it with all Scripture. They’ll cross-reference only the parts that fit their doctrine. This is a fatal mistake. Peter says plainly that “no word of prophecy (or anything else) is of private interpretation. What he wrote that we read as “private” was single, or even maybe personal. In other words, it has to fit in with the rest of the book. One verse doesn’t make a doctrine.

The folks who insist that we go to church on Saturday, bury themselves in God’s command to keep the Sabbath holy. They’ll get into long histories showing how the Saturday Sabbath was perverted by Paganism and changed to Sunday. A day to worship the Sun. They’ll point to Easter Sunrise Services as a Pagan implant. They make such a big deal out of it that one comes away thinking that anyone who worships God on any other day than Saturday will be out of God’s will and not be saved. I’ve heard long lectures bashing Catholicism and its aim to make the whole world Catholic. While this idea is true, the focus comes down to passing laws to ban any worship day but Sunday. It’s Catholic bashing to promote Saturday worship. I tell you, I don’t need the Sunday thing to know that Catholicism is bent on taking over the world’s religions. And believe me, their aim goes much higher than passing some law that says you have to go to church on Sunday.

What happens when we take into account other very prominent parts of the Bible, mainly Paul’s teaching in the New Testament? It’s interesting how many people miss Paul’s job. They focus mainly on Jesus and what he said and did. But that’s a rather incomplete, not spelled out, example of what’s going on. Jesus only says he came to fulfill the Law. It’s Paul that tells us what that really means. But the Saturday people don’t go there. They negate Paul’s statement that the Law was “nailed to the cross.” They ignore Jesus when he says the ALL the Law is contained in “love God, and your neighbor.” He didn’t mention ANY day to worship. What? Didn’t he know about the Ten Commandments? Did he forget that God said to keep the Sabbath holy?

Paul Tillich says very well that Jesus didn’t come to found a new religion. He came to do away with all religious practices, because they always turn out to be a chain around our necks that push into Good Works. There’s always some ego-bound pastor or neighbor that will put us down because we don’t do those religious works.

How can it be that Jesus did away with the Law and not give us something else to do? What did he say would replace the Law? “Love your neighbor” doesn’t say worship on Saturday. Again, Jesus gave us the bare bones, and Paul tells us what meat is on those bones. That’s Paul’s job.

Jesus took Paul out into Arabia and taught him what the real meaning of the Old Testament was. Paul was a preeminent Bible scholar. His mind was a recreation of the Law. So he didn’t have the true idea of much of what the Old Testament was saying. He didn’t recognize Isaiah’s prophecy of the suffering Christ. He didn’t realize that the Ten Commandments were only a ”school master”, as he calls it in Galatians 3:24.

Was Paul wrong or was Jesus wrong? Which one of them didn’t understand God’s plan? How much of what Jesus or Paul had to say wasn’t inspired by God? Of course, we can’t allow that either of them was wrong. Jesus fulfilled the Law and Paul told us what that really meant. What about another of Jesus’ sayings?

Jesus told his disciples to “go first to the lost sheep of the House of Israel” and everyone stops there and doesn’t determine who is that House of Israel. People have very little understanding that there are two different nations in the Old Testament. They lump the northern ten=tribe nation of Israel and the two=tribe nation of Judah into the box labeled Jews. Then when they try to apply that idea to all the Old Testament prophecy to the House of Israel, they can’t find it fulfilled. What happens then?

The church, the Body of Christ is used to fulfill those prophecies. And then the conjecture runs rampant. The promise to Abraham of descendents numbering like the sand of the sea, become all the believers in the world. They base this on Paul’s single statement that we are the seed of Abraham if we are saved. Paul didn’t have a complete understanding of who and where the Lost tribes were. He knew that some Israelites were in different places out north and west, but not the whole picture. Just as he didn’t have the whole picture on the second coming. He thought Christ would return before he died.

The book of Hebrews is one of the most important books of the Bible. Unlike Romans, which
gives a general treatise on faith, Hebrews, being directed at the Jews, details the elements of
the Law, and most importantly gives us many examples of faithing in everyday circumstances.
It is in the book of Hebrews that we can trace the God-inspired, God-trusting actions of
people that God has stamped with His approval. No more guessing about what faith really is.


God's Great Salvation
God's Rest
Our High Priest
The New Covenant
The Faith Way
Christian Life

God's Rest

Paul advises that they remember the forty years in the wilderness, and keep faithing.
Christ is the beginning and continuation of faithing. Cling to your beginnings, and
you'll receive God's rest/promise.

We have a "rest" through faith(ing). The promised land wasn't a final rest because
David talked of another day. That leaves us with a "sabbathing", in faithing.

The New Covenant

So, we have this high priest, who mediates a new covenant. The old is out. God said
He'd make a new covenant. That means the first covenant must now be defunct.

The first covenant had to do with physical things like the tabernacle, the Ark, and altar.
Christ brings Salvation through non-physical things, and is our mediator. And his
testament is confirmed in blood just like the old testament. But, Christ can only suffer

The Law was only a shadow of the Good Thing to come. Like the High Priest, we,
through Jesus' blood, can enter the Holy of Holies. But if we ignore Jesus' sacrifice and
go back to the Law, we fall into the hands of God, who judges. Stick with faithing. God
is faithful to give faithers rejuvenating life (force).


This word rest is one of the pivotal words in the Bible for Christians. It helps answer
the long-debated question regarding keeping of the Sabbath. This has been one of the
most controversial issues of Christianity for many centuries. It has caused schisms in
the Church, and spawned whole new denominations. Many folks cling to the legalistic
view that we must keep the Saturday Sabbath, as it was commanded by God on Mt.
Sinai. Paul breaks that old Bond by explaining rest, and then telling us that our rest
now is faithing.

It must be considered that the word rest used by Paul in all verses of Hebrews, save
one, are what we would normally understand. The one is a totally different word. Ten
of the eleven listings in Strong's are from either Gk2663, katapausis, which derives
directly from 2664, katapauo. You can readily see that these words are virtually the
same. Katapauo, Gk2664 is from 2596 kata, which means finality, uttermost, and 3973
pauo, a primary verb which means to stop. Katapauo is the final and ultimate
stopping; the uttermost finish. There is nothing left to do. Rest. Katapausis narrows the
focus of katapauo, final stopping, to a final rest.

Given the context of Paul's constant argument for faith(ing) over Works, he's telling
us in Hebrews 3 and 4 that we can obtain a position of No Works. But he adds to that
repeated argument the factor of Sabbath keeping.

In verse nine of chapter four Paul says an amazing thing; if the original word he uses be
known. My King James version says "rest," but it's a totally different word. The word
being translated "rest" is sabbatismos. Doesn't sound anything like katapausis. I know
that you can see the word "sabbath" hiding behind the Greek spelling.

This word sabbatismos is number Gk4520, and is attached to Christianity. Strong's
says, "a 'sabbatism;, i.e. (fig) the repose of Christianity (as a type of heaven): --rest.'
This "rest", the stoppage of the works of the Law, replaces the keeping of the Sabbath.
The only thing to determine now is, the action required for the entrance into this
"sabbathing rest." Paul is kind enough to tell us in verse four. After setting the context
of the wilderness trek, and the people's disobedience, he says that they missed entering
into God's rest (the Holy Land) because, although they heard the word of promise,
they still didn't act in trust: "not mixed with faith in them that heard it." Taking into
consideration Paul's repeated teaching that we are justified, sanctified, and saved by
faith, we can conclude that the thing that accesses God's "rest" is faith(ing). Those
folks in the wilderness wouldn't act on the word of God that He would help them
secure the Promised Land; in spite of the high walls, large population, and giants. They
wouldn't faithe.

Is the book of Colossians Scripture, inspired by God? Listen to what Paul says.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of a holy day, or of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
Col 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshiping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Col 2:19 And not holding the Head, from which all the body by joints and bands having nourishment ministered, and knit together, increaseth with the increase of God.

Paul was a Parrot. He was taught personally by Jesus. He was mostly just repeating what he was taught by Jesus. He more that any other apostle knew that his message was True. Jesus didn't teach the other apostles in the same way, and what he taught Paul. That’s what was happening for those three years between Paul’s conversion and his first preaching in Jericho. He knew more Scripture that any other apostle to begin with. This knowledge was then, by Christ, exposed to the Light of God's Truth. This Truth was there from the start, but misunderstood by most of the people before Christ. Again, that was Paul's job. To "re"-interpret the Scripture for the people.

Finally said, "Faithing has now replaced keeping God's Sabbath."


Recently I received a question about the seeming lack of one, hard evidence for the Lost Tribes concept, and two, the seeming ignorance of the Lost Tribes information among the mainstream church, particularly TV preachers.

Although the evidence is nearly two hundred years old, that makes up only 8% of the total years from the fall of Samaria in 721 BC. With the publishing of the 29th chapter of Acts in 1800, the first clue that I've seen was manifest. It tells how Paul heard that Israelites were living in Britain, and determined to go there. This ties in with Jesus' admonition to go first to the "lost sheep of (not Israel, not the House of Judah) the House of Israel; the ten tribes. If you trace the Celts and Scythians, you'll find that those are the ones Paul went to; after the Spirit refused to let him go to Asia.

Another facet: The 7 times punishment period decreed by God in Leviticus 26:18, "if ye shall NOT keep my statutes," ran out for Ephraim(England) 2520 years after the fall of Samaria, 721 BC. Research shows one time to be a "year of years." A 360 day year. 360 X 7 =2520. No other time period applied to the term "time" will yield a satisfactory period for the promise to be fulfilled. And the book of Hosea is a virtual History of what happened to the Celts/Scythians.

As a little exercise, you could assume that the Celts/Scythians are the House of Israel, then trace an overview of their history; to the present. They end up just like Hosea says, being "known as sons of the living God." These people, with NO knowledge of their heritage, turn out to be the only other people on earth besides the Jews who are connected to the Bible and It's God. You'd think, on the surface, that the Arabs (being from Abraham) would be more likely to be the same. They aren't though.

So God carefully concealed the evidence spoken of above 'till His punishment period had run. Then notice in the mid-eighteen hundreds how archeology exploded. Layard dug up Ninevah, to uncover the Royal Library of Ashurbanipal. Those tablets give us a lock on the NEW names to look for when searching out the Israelites. Likewise, Rawlinson, at roughly the same time, deciphered Behistun Rock, and the Assyrian tablets were confirmed. Darius II also left confirmation of the Israelites new names two places in his tomb.

You see, we have only one hurdle to cross when considering the Lost Tribes: find that transition time in history. The Lost Tribes have a historical Pivot Point. This is the point at which the Israelites become the Gamir(variously spelled) and the Sakka. We have sure record of the Israelites before this point in time, and we have sure record of the Gamir and Sakka after this time. So once we establish the link between the Israelites, the Gamir(Celts), and the Sakka(Scythians), we'll have mountains of the evidence you’ll like to see.

One other small point: you know how slow science/history/archeology is. It's only a little over 150 years since Layard and Rawlinson. Just look at the Dead Sea Scrolls. It's over forty years and the public still doesn't have it all.

Evidence, evidence. I understand evidence very well. I know that we do almost nothing in our lives without evidence to back it up. Admittedly, some of us choose faulty or bad evidence, but we DO have evidence. I always use the example of buying a house. A lot of Christians gather more evidence when buying a house than they do to confirm God's reality or workings. Of course I wouldn't call them Christians, but the churches are full of folks like that. They can't answer two serious questions about their belief system.

Now, the responsibilities accompanying the Christian walk demand that any thinking person continue to gather evidence, and re-affirm his "faith." It's like an onion, right? Layer on layer. And until we get as good as Jesus, we've got work/study to do. How else will we stand up to the ever increasing difficulty of God's training? The harder it gets, the more courage it takes. The more courage it takes, the more confirmation we MUST have to feed our confidence that it's going to be OK.

And you know, there doesn't seem to be an end to the evidence that touches on the Lost Tribes. Look at my index page. Except for a few topics, the pages all connect to this teaching. the Zodiac, the Pyramid, Stonehenge, Endtimes, and more. A guy named Barry Fell has written three volumes on the archeology of North America, particularly the US. He proves, without a shadow of a doubt that Israelites were here as early as 1000 BC! ! ! There's a four foot square rock face in New Mexico, that contains the ten commandments almost verbatim! ! From the time of Christ, just outside Moneta (money), Wyoming, there is a rock face inscribed for trading, with the name of the bank included. It says in effect, "1st Iberian bank, no usury." Does "no usury" sound familiar? Doesn't sound like much 'till one knows that Iberia was settled by the descendents of Eber, the Hebrews (not Jews, now). The words Iberia and Hebrew are cognates. Same goes for Hibernia (Ireland). Amazingly, the only reference to Israel in the whole three volumes of Barry Fell, is a reference to Cotton Mather's conviction that the American Indians were people from the Lost Tribes of Israel.

I hope this sheds some light on why this information hasn't been around very long. God was sending Israel, as Isaiah says, to the "isles afar off" to "renew their strength" in order to take the Gospel to the world; which was their job from the beginning.

Let’s take a minute and look briefly at the history of the Israelites.

They came out of Egypt as a whole. Occupied Promised Land as a whole. The first three kings ruled the whole nation of Israel. The nation splits into the nation of Israel (the big group of tribes kept the name Israel), and the nation of Judah, which also took in the tribe of Benjamin. Two-tribe nation of Judah and ten-tribe nation of Israel. Assyria comes and takes away the whole nation of Israel, finishing up the final conquering of the capitol Samaria in 721 BC. One nation down, one to go. Babylonia comes and finishes the conquering of the nation of Judah, in about 586 BC. No more Israelite nations in the Promised Land. The Jews of the nation of Judah come back 70 years later, but the House of Israel never returns, but is prophesied to return at a much later time. The Jews stay in Palestine from their coming back until 70 AD when Titus sacks Jerusalem and drives the remaining Jews out. BTW, you’ll be able to find evidence of a large influx of Jewish immigrants into Appalachia around that time.

What ever happened to that ten-tribe nation of Israel? There were millions of them. Only 50,000 people from the two-tribed kingdom of the House of Judah came back from Babylon. Some 600,000 stayed. Where will those people that are “gathered” come from? I’ve heard estimates that there only about 30 million Jews in the world. 30 out of 650,000 after 2700 years. At that rate, those millions of the nation of the House of Israel, must have grown to at least 275 million by this time. Some have estimated them to be almost a billion. Are they hiding over in Siberia?

Not recognizing that there are two different groups of people, the Jews and the Israelites causes all kinds of problems.

Just to lock down the fact that there are two distinct groups of people talked about in the Bible, I want to bore you with a short list of verses that clearly show that two different Houses, nations, groups of people are being referred to.

Hosea starts off his book with a sort of brief history of the House of Israel. After telling Hosea to marry, He tells him what to name the three children that are born to him. The first name means “scattered”, which is what happened to the House of Israel when the Assyrians conquered the whole nation. They took them away and relocated them in a few different places. The first girl is to be named LoAmi, which means“ not my people. They would lose the knowledge of their origin. The next girl is born and is named LoRuhamah, which means “no mercy.” So even though they wouldn’t be wiped out, they wouldn’t be watched over so closely and helped by God. All these things are directed to the House of Israel. We know this for sure because right away in verse 7 Godsays that He would have mercy on the House of Judah. Subsequent history proves that there were two nations, both of which went into captivity, but at different times; almost a150 years apart. Also of note is the fact that Hosea writes House of Israel 14 times and House of Judah 8 times.

Ezekiel 23 is very interesting because God shows us that He even considered the two houses separate before they were even one house. They weren’t a nation in Egypt. They weren’t a nation until they chose Saul for their king. In that 23rd chapter, Ezekiel talks about Aholah and Aholabah. He calls them sisters. Right away in verse four he tells us whom these two sisters represent. Ahola is Samaria, that’s the capitol of the northern nation of the House of Israel. Aholabah is Jerusalem, the capitol of the southern nation of the House of Judah. Two different groups. Ezekiel mentions the House of Israel 159 times and the House of Judah 86 times.

Let me throw in here that is isn’t always “the House”. Sometimes it’s only Judah or Israel. What ever, it’s clear from he context that two groups are being talked about.

Jeremiah mentions the House of Israel 110 times, and Judah 30 times. In chapter 3 verses 6-11 he compares Israel with her “treacherous sister Judah” three different times. Only two more to go.

Isaiah echoes a few of the other prophets when he talks about the gathering of all the tribes at the end of the Millennium. Isaiah 11:11 starts to talk about the gathering by naming a bunch of places that the people would come from. It’s important to notice the at the end of the verse he mentions the “islands of the sea.” That would be the British Isles, and a few others. But he makes it clear in verse 12 that he’s talking about two different groups by naming them. “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.” Isaiah mentions the House of Israel 58 times and Judah 7 times.

The last one we’ll look at is again in Ezekiel, chapter 37. It’s part of that old spiritual, The Dry Bones. There’s no denying verses 19 through 22.

“Say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the stick of Joseph(that’s another name for Israel), which is in the hand of Ephraim,(yet another name for the House of Israel), and the tribes of Israel his fellows, and will put them with him, even with the stick of Judah, and make them one stick, and they shall be one in mine hand, 20: And the sticks whereon thou writest shall be in thine hand before their eyes. 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; behold I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone (that would be the scattering from Hosea’s first child), and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel( that’s geographically Israel); and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all.” Can’t get any clearer than that.

Do you agree that we have to take into account that there are two nations and we must apply that knowledge to the prophecy?

Next time you hear someone call the House of Israel or the Ten Tribes Jews, you’ll know that they come from a frame that is ignorant of the split between the two nations. That ignorance will carry over into all their interpretations of Old Testament prophecy, and even some in the New. They’ll be looking for the fulfillment of the prophecies in all the wrong places.


Belittling, discounting, and rejecting the truth of the Lost Tribes carries as a frame of reference, many elements of which the detractor is unaware. Briefly stated are the following points, which underlie the rejection of the Lost Tribes teaching.

Without the LT:
1. A shallow Biblical knowledge and disregard for the Bible's sanctity. The things that aren’t understood are assigned some conjecture or guess. Worse, they are ignored.

2. The folks who reject the LT many times hold the opinion that the Bible's only use is for salvation. "If I'm saved, what difference anything else?"

3. It also shows a lack of reverence for God's word. Something revered is usually done so by some action involved in the reverence. If it’s God’s Word, isn’t it worth a look, at least?

4. Unwillingness to check out the Lost Tribes assumes the right to select or discard God's truth. "How much of the Bible are you ready to throw out?"

5. These folks must have a very "thin" idea of Scripture and God's purpose in them. It looks like a closed mind; a spiritual indolence. The whole book is important and worthy of our study.

6. I could even say that this attitude declares God to be foolish for supplying more than that needed for salvation.

7. It ignores the fact that five sevenths of the Bible is not "personal' salvation oriented.

8. It belittles God's faithfulness to His word of promise. That’s the main benefit of the LT teaching. God said a whole bunch of things to the House of Israel. Most of them can be seen in history to be fulfilled.

9. Rejects God's comfort in these last days. There are many prophecies that are given for the end times. Jacob’s blessings in Gen 48 and 49 and Moses' blessings in Deuteronomy 33 were for now.

10. Turns down God's call to know the Bible; to do every good work.

11. It rejects the glorification of God's faithfulness to Abraham by the Gospel writers and Apostles.

12. It ignores a pivotal key to opening up vast amounts of Scripture to understanding. As said, 5/7 of the Bible depends on the knowledge of the LT teaching.

13. Refuses to recognize the enormous differences between the Celts and the Turks(Esau), Arabs (Ishmael), and Brahman Indians (Keturah). All these populations came out of Abraham’s loins. But, only those that also come out of Isaac and then Jacob will fulfill the prophecies to the House of Israel.

The closed mind to the Lost Tribes teaching will never be able to understand Jesus fully; His teaching or His mission. What about his statement that he wasn’t sent but for the Lost sheep of the House of Israel? And that he told his disciples to go first to those same people?

God chose Israel to witness divine truth to the world; just as He chose Jesus.

Bonus: peace, calm, comfort, and encouragement comes with the understanding of the Lost Tribes teaching. A firm place to stand in trouble. A simple history lesson that can change your life.

Would you turn down a couple million dollars that some distant Uncle left you in his will? Wouldn’t you at least double check the lawyer and see if it was true? Not studying the Bible is like trying to climb a hill with 100 pound weights on your feet. You just don’t get anywhere. Things pile up and there just doesn’t seem to be any way around them. You might even start to think that God was piling stuff on to teach you some lesson.

Following the Truth is the answer. But it can’t be our own Truth, it’s got to be God’s Truth.

Thanks for listening today. I’ll see you again on October 5th.

In the mean time, STAG is a comfortable place to discuss today’s subjects and a lot more. We’re at 88 Briceland Rd in Redway, or on the web, Also there’s big archive of past Straight Talk up there.

You know, you won’t find Truths like today’s subjects without digging for them. They are definitely NOT in someone’s mouth. They are in what the writers of the Bible wrote. That means NO translation is good enough. But when you get back into the original writing you find that God is real. And He does all the stuff He says He’ll do.

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